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One of David's mock exams has a similar practice question.800.
That's tough one as time has to be minimum and takes minimum number of scenarios.. I too I was confused.
One of David's mock exams has a similar practice question.800.
That's tough one as time has to be minimum and takes minimum number of scenarios.. I too I was confused.
Also,....there was a question that spoke about identifying an arbitrage scenario given a set of options with different strikes & premiums,....any idea how this needs to be worked out.
I cant remember the analytical formula for Modified Duration and computing it using average weighted maturity would take too much time so I just shock the yield by 0.1% using the calculator and formula deltaP/deltaY to compute the Dollar duration. I think the answer was 173.
I chose the limit order option.
The reason was more to do with the wording - $5 USD or "better",.....which seems to be in sync with the meaning of a limit order - "the order can be executed only at this price or at one more favourable to the investor"
This one caught me off-guard too. My first intuition was put-call parity but that didn't lead me anywhere, so i skipped the question in first instance and reviewed with the timei had left at the end. Then i got the following idea: i calculated what should be the price of the middle call (2nd row), based on the law of one price, same as you would do it for bonds. Outcome was that the weights of option A and C were both 50% and that the "model price" of the option B was 8, which is lower compared to the given price of 8-something. So answer for me was to short 2 times call B ("sell the expensive thing", as David would say), long call A, long call C. I must say i was pretty happy to "discover" how to do it. Now just hoping it's correct
Lucky me,...this option that you selected is precisely what I guessed,...I.e., the butterfly spread.
To each his own time management and preferences in methods of course, but the weighted average maturity is exactly what i did. It was a three year bond with annual payments (so only 3 cashflows), so I actually don't think your method (though also correct) isn't much faster but is more prone to errors. Just my two cents. Don't remember my answer on this, sorry.
Agreed,...this is the method that should have been followed -> calculate Macaulay duration -> and then modified duration....I landed up using the yield shock method and did not get the exact answer
Same answer and reasoning for me.
These 2 questions I was not able to get with even second attempt.. can someone throw some light
and one other question on finding value a random variable 2 standard deviations away.. i get caught in wording of this question
Sorry dont remember exactly questions now...
How did zou calculate the bond price where 3 bonds were given and the price of the 2nd was the one they asked for_
Hi, candidates who seat also for PART I 2013 Nov. exam, how do you think the difference between Nov 2013 and May 2014. I think this exam was more difficult than November exam.
How did zou calculate the bond price where 3 bonds were given and the price of the 2nd was the one they asked for_
Babak083, I sat for both part I (3,3,2,2) and part II (not scored). I thought Nov.13 part I was very tricky. Was thinking that the questions would come in the form that most exams come in...meaning, I thought it was going to be a straight application of the formulas and concepts. Was not ready for the twists that GARP has in store for us poor, unsuspecting candidates (hats SERIOUSLY off to those who pass Part I without seen it in person first!). With that said, I thought May 14 Part I was 1.5 times trickier! There were a good amount of questions that I felt good about, but there are just some that I don't think you can really prepare for. So while I can rip off every formula and talk about GARCH (1,1) and inverted convexity until I'm blue in the face, It does ya no good when you're not sure of what the question is. It's no shame (IMO) to fail at least once. Personally, I was glad to have failed. If I passed (which I must have been extremely close to doing) I would not have had the benefit of really understanding, to a much greater depth, the material as I do now, regardless of passing the exam...I do understand the material so much better, and that's a small victory in its own right. How did you feel about it?
Plulutes, thank you for so comprehensive answer, Actually I agree with you about failing for the first time, so in this time concept was more clear than first time. In this exam first hour I was headache so I just look through questions, so I actually use 3 hours of time and answer 70 of questions, 20 of questions i choose between 2 answer (hope half of them will be right), and rest of questions just use my chance. How do you think if right answers will 65-70, have I any chance to pass?
Hello,Hi everybody,
first of all thanks for the detailed feedback here, I planned to write some remarks myself but I am honestly still feeling very tired after the exam. I didn't sleep too well before Saturday and I took both parts on the same day which was (in my opinion) very, very exhausting...
Anyway the exam was pretty tricky, I am really not sure what the outcome will be, in the first two hours I was really "in the zone" and I think I have worked through 52 or 54 questions then I took a break to drink and eat something (which lost me some time as I had to give the papers and leave the room - thanks for this restrictive policy! @"§$%) and then my focus decreased gradually...
I remember some pretty tough questions (which may not be tough when thinking about them in peace, but in the stress of the exam...):
So, I will be very grateful to pass, but not so sure at the moment, my guess is I will be somewhere between 60 and 75% (that's my optimistic guess), or something like 2,2,2,3...
- 7-4-3 crack spread - I've even explained a similar question here on the forum -> total blackout in the exam. 30 seconds before the end I vaguely remembered how to solve it but the time was up...
- The one with Jensen's alpha and several returns, deviations --> I took the way some people here recommended but I didn't get any of the answers...
- The one with the barbell convexity I lost too much time and wasn't very sure of it, although in hindsight it was a doable question
- The F-stat questions - not so sure, but to me it appeared significant so I ruled out the two answers which stated "fail to reject", but had to guess on the other two, so it was a coinflip...
- How did you cope with the question on the computational efficiency? Didn't remember a similar one in the PQs or elsewhere.. Was it something from the simulations reading (Pachamanova)? Or just a more advanced question testing the understanding? I tried to apply logic and first thought it should be something with the least time but then this would have been too easy, so I looked at the standard deviations and tried to look for a combination of "least time" + "lowest vola", but still wasn't sure, what was your take on this one?
- A lot of questions on the new readings, I am very, very glad I read them all, but still I managed to not solve the APT questions (or at least one of them)...
If i am correct, there actually was an exercise on this in David's set, which is were i based myself on. Basically, if i remember correctly, you need to chose the one for which SE times sqrt(t) is lowest. Stdev, number of scenarios and total time to run scenarios was given. So i calculated SE for each based on Stdev/sqrt(#scenarios run), then multiplies with sqrt(#time needed to run all scenarios) and took the minimum of that. However, i'm not 100% sure if i needed to use sqr(#time all scenarios) or sqrt(#time one scenario).
- 7-4-3 crack spread - I've even explained a similar question here on the forum -> total blackout in the exam. 30 seconds before the end I vaguely remembered how to solve it but the time was up..
- How did you cope with the question on the computational efficiency? Didn't remember a similar one in the PQs or elsewhere.. Was it something from the simulations reading (Pachamanova)? Or just a more advanced question testing the understanding? I tried to apply logic and first thought it should be something with the least time but then this would have been too easy, so I looked at the standard deviations and tried to look for a combination of "least time" + "lowest vola", but still wasn't sure, what was your take on this one?
Also, remember that of the 45% that pass Part I, on average, a good percentage of those that pass are Return testers (like us), making the first time success rate probably closer to 30% (my guess again).
Are you absolutely certain that you didn't get the answer ??.....I remember doing this problem in the exact same manner and getting a match with one of the options ......the calculation above should give 2.7 and not 2.75There is also one question about unlevered/level beta where they increase the debt/equity ratio from 1 to 2 and decrease tax rate from 25% to 15%. Original levered beta is 1.75, unlevered beta is 1. So I plug the number in (1+(1-0.15)*2) and got 2.75..which is none of the answer anyone solved this question ?
i too got 2.7Are you absolutely certain that you didn't get the answer ??.....I remember doing this problem in the exact same manner and getting a match with one of the options ......the calculation above should give 2.7 and not 2.75
The choices were given in term of range. I dont think I see any 2.7. I saw 1.75 to 2.5. that was closest I chose that...hm..i too got 2.7
.....Was only able to crack into the 2 standard deviation question on a second attempt.
From what I remember,.....what was provided was the value of 2 securities (think it was 40K & 60K) , their individual expected return, volatilities & correlation.
I landed up -
Calculating the portfolio weighted return, using their current price / value as the weight.
Calculating the portfolio volatility, using the standard formula - SQRT(W1^2(Variance A)+W2^2(Variance B)+2*W1*W2*Covariance(A,B))
Multiply the -> standard deviation * 2 (based on the question)
Grow the portfolio value -> Current value 100K (1+Weighted Return)
And finally
New Portfolio Value + standard deviation * 2 //New Value - standard deviation * 2